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		<title>By: Rachel</title>
		<link>http://www.mswiggie.com/ramblings/rants/truth-or/comment-page-1#comment-34</link>
		<dc:creator>Rachel</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 16 Dec 2009 05:12:19 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Deliruttie, did you even notice the fact that that website hasn&#039;t even been updated since October of 2008? Plenty of time for someone to have been deployed..

Just sayin&#039; be careful what you post and say.

I don&#039;t know these people. I don&#039;t know what went on. The details are none of my business. It&#039;s none of anyone&#039;s business except those actually involved. People really need to get off the &quot;I need to be in (read: getting down on them) everyone else&#039;s business&quot; train and start worrying more about themselves. 

I do think it&#039;s great to help out and I believe it is ok to want to varrify a story before you help out. Unfortunately, especially in the blogger/twitter world that&#039;s what its come down to. But please people... be careful what you are passing on.  I&#039;ve heard people say &quot;yeah she tweeted about her son and a half hour later was tweeting about her chickens.&quot;

Really? Get some information, people.

I really hope nobody has to ever go through something like this!

Andrea and mswiggie, I totally agree... and with her hubby being in the military and overseas, who knows how much family she has close.. maybe twitter was her fastest, easiest &quot;its right there in my hand right now and I HAVE to do something&quot; way of getting the word out quick. For crying out loud she was asking for prayers, not like she was exploiting him.

I am an EMT and I&#039;ve seen the whole realm of grief/stress that happens as a loved one is dying. I&#039;ve seen people completely whig out and cry/scream. I&#039;ve seen people who are totally in shock and can&#039;t even look at you. I&#039;ve had to peal people off of their loved one (and even us!), and I&#039;ve seen people chit chat with someone in the kitchen, or call 10 different people and tell them their loved one is gone like they were calling them to bring home a loaf of bread... while we&#039;re working on their loved one in the living room.

People handle it in different ways, and it&#039;s not our place to get down on them for it.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Deliruttie, did you even notice the fact that that website hasn&#8217;t even been updated since October of 2008? Plenty of time for someone to have been deployed..</p>
<p>Just sayin&#8217; be careful what you post and say.</p>
<p>I don&#8217;t know these people. I don&#8217;t know what went on. The details are none of my business. It&#8217;s none of anyone&#8217;s business except those actually involved. People really need to get off the &#8220;I need to be in (read: getting down on them) everyone else&#8217;s business&#8221; train and start worrying more about themselves. </p>
<p>I do think it&#8217;s great to help out and I believe it is ok to want to varrify a story before you help out. Unfortunately, especially in the blogger/twitter world that&#8217;s what its come down to. But please people&#8230; be careful what you are passing on.  I&#8217;ve heard people say &#8220;yeah she tweeted about her son and a half hour later was tweeting about her chickens.&#8221;</p>
<p>Really? Get some information, people.</p>
<p>I really hope nobody has to ever go through something like this!</p>
<p>Andrea and mswiggie, I totally agree&#8230; and with her hubby being in the military and overseas, who knows how much family she has close.. maybe twitter was her fastest, easiest &#8220;its right there in my hand right now and I HAVE to do something&#8221; way of getting the word out quick. For crying out loud she was asking for prayers, not like she was exploiting him.</p>
<p>I am an EMT and I&#8217;ve seen the whole realm of grief/stress that happens as a loved one is dying. I&#8217;ve seen people completely whig out and cry/scream. I&#8217;ve seen people who are totally in shock and can&#8217;t even look at you. I&#8217;ve had to peal people off of their loved one (and even us!), and I&#8217;ve seen people chit chat with someone in the kitchen, or call 10 different people and tell them their loved one is gone like they were calling them to bring home a loaf of bread&#8230; while we&#8217;re working on their loved one in the living room.</p>
<p>People handle it in different ways, and it&#8217;s not our place to get down on them for it.</p>
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		<title>By: mswiggie</title>
		<link>http://www.mswiggie.com/ramblings/rants/truth-or/comment-page-1#comment-32</link>
		<dc:creator>mswiggie</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 15 Dec 2009 23:51:26 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hey there: You can contact Agent Martin or Lt. Goodyear at the Brevard County Sheriff&#039;s office. I received information from their office directly. It&#039;s currently an ongoing investigation; county websites don&#039;t usually release information (especially when a minor is involved) on their websites. If it was considered a major event, they may hold a news conference, but I don&#039;t believe they think that is warranted in this case.  If you&#039;re still unsure then you should contact them yourself since reading websites/twitter updates etc can&#039;t really be considered reliable.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hey there: You can contact Agent Martin or Lt. Goodyear at the Brevard County Sheriff&#8217;s office. I received information from their office directly. It&#8217;s currently an ongoing investigation; county websites don&#8217;t usually release information (especially when a minor is involved) on their websites. If it was considered a major event, they may hold a news conference, but I don&#8217;t believe they think that is warranted in this case.  If you&#8217;re still unsure then you should contact them yourself since reading websites/twitter updates etc can&#8217;t really be considered reliable.</p>
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		<title>By: mswiggie</title>
		<link>http://www.mswiggie.com/ramblings/rants/truth-or/comment-page-1#comment-31</link>
		<dc:creator>mswiggie</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 15 Dec 2009 20:18:02 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;You&quot; are in good &quot;company&quot; methinks. I have definitely relied on twitter for a few of my own issues... more facebook than twitter since those people I know a bit more... but there is definitely a community feeling out there, and sharing with people during hard times - and not expecting any criticism in return - is important to get us through rough patches. You just *know* someone reading your tweet/post/blog entry has been there done that. Suddenly things seem more survivable. 

Thanks for your comments.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;You&#8221; are in good &#8220;company&#8221; methinks. I have definitely relied on twitter for a few of my own issues&#8230; more facebook than twitter since those people I know a bit more&#8230; but there is definitely a community feeling out there, and sharing with people during hard times &#8211; and not expecting any criticism in return &#8211; is important to get us through rough patches. You just *know* someone reading your tweet/post/blog entry has been there done that. Suddenly things seem more survivable. </p>
<p>Thanks for your comments.</p>
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		<title>By: Andrea's Sweet Life</title>
		<link>http://www.mswiggie.com/ramblings/rants/truth-or/comment-page-1#comment-30</link>
		<dc:creator>Andrea's Sweet Life</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 15 Dec 2009 20:10:40 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I think the thing that gets &quot;us&quot; so upset is that not everyone gets it.  We aren&#039;t &quot;strangers&quot;.  Different people use social media in different ways.  For those of us with little or no &quot;real life&quot; (please pardon my over use of quotes) community, the blogging and/or twitter community IS our community.  
We take it to heart when someone bashes us for tweeting when they feel we *should* be doing something else.
Personally, when my baby was hospitalized last month, my twitter community is what kept me from going completely insane.  
To each their own!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I think the thing that gets &#8220;us&#8221; so upset is that not everyone gets it.  We aren&#8217;t &#8220;strangers&#8221;.  Different people use social media in different ways.  For those of us with little or no &#8220;real life&#8221; (please pardon my over use of quotes) community, the blogging and/or twitter community IS our community.<br />
We take it to heart when someone bashes us for tweeting when they feel we *should* be doing something else.<br />
Personally, when my baby was hospitalized last month, my twitter community is what kept me from going completely insane.<br />
To each their own!</p>
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		<title>By: mswiggie</title>
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		<dc:creator>mswiggie</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 15 Dec 2009 19:52:23 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Thanks April. I definitely was called the &quot;a&quot; word today. I&#039;m pretty disappointed that happened, especially since I tried to be thoughtful about the entire thing. I know many people are hurting right now, so I&#039;m trying to consider that, but I wholeheartedly agree with what you said, that if you question anything you get the attacks.

As soon as I heard from the Sheriff&#039;s office, I contacted the local media in Orlando, then twittered and updated my blog so that the people who WERE unsure could know, and proceed if they wanted to donate to the family.

It&#039;ll probably last for a few days since one of my responses was to McGraw, so I&#039;m being lumped with her into a category of mean people who have no heart.

Thanks for your comment.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thanks April. I definitely was called the &#8220;a&#8221; word today. I&#8217;m pretty disappointed that happened, especially since I tried to be thoughtful about the entire thing. I know many people are hurting right now, so I&#8217;m trying to consider that, but I wholeheartedly agree with what you said, that if you question anything you get the attacks.</p>
<p>As soon as I heard from the Sheriff&#8217;s office, I contacted the local media in Orlando, then twittered and updated my blog so that the people who WERE unsure could know, and proceed if they wanted to donate to the family.</p>
<p>It&#8217;ll probably last for a few days since one of my responses was to McGraw, so I&#8217;m being lumped with her into a category of mean people who have no heart.</p>
<p>Thanks for your comment.</p>
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		<title>By: April</title>
		<link>http://www.mswiggie.com/ramblings/rants/truth-or/comment-page-1#comment-28</link>
		<dc:creator>April</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 15 Dec 2009 19:46:01 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I think Candace might have been referring to Madison McGraw&#039;s post which was tagged with &quot;Twitter hoax&quot; or something like that.

I hate to say it but I wish it WAS a hoax. It broke my heart to see that his passing was confirmed. I wanted it to NOT be true. But since it his, I hope now that Shellie and her friends will just IGNORE the other stuff and cope with this loss.

You know what bothers me though? Those that are saying &quot;hey, it&#039;s natural to question a story before sending in money especially if something seems a little odd about it...&quot; are now getting lumped in and called assholes with someone who took those doubts to another level. There&#039;s a difference in being reluctant to blindly believe something and outright accusing someone of lying about a child&#039;s death. 

The name-calling and the attacks are just ridiculous! And, honestly, I see most of it coming from people who should be more concerned with supporting their friend than worrying about what some stranger on the Internet is saying. It just adds fuel to the fire if you ask me.

*sigh* Sadly, I&#039;ve seen it before in the Mom blogging community... don&#039;t you DARE speak out or disagree with one of their own or you will suffer their wrath! Maybe that&#039;s why I never really fit in... I&#039;m too much of an independent thinker.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I think Candace might have been referring to Madison McGraw&#8217;s post which was tagged with &#8220;Twitter hoax&#8221; or something like that.</p>
<p>I hate to say it but I wish it WAS a hoax. It broke my heart to see that his passing was confirmed. I wanted it to NOT be true. But since it his, I hope now that Shellie and her friends will just IGNORE the other stuff and cope with this loss.</p>
<p>You know what bothers me though? Those that are saying &#8220;hey, it&#8217;s natural to question a story before sending in money especially if something seems a little odd about it&#8230;&#8221; are now getting lumped in and called assholes with someone who took those doubts to another level. There&#8217;s a difference in being reluctant to blindly believe something and outright accusing someone of lying about a child&#8217;s death. </p>
<p>The name-calling and the attacks are just ridiculous! And, honestly, I see most of it coming from people who should be more concerned with supporting their friend than worrying about what some stranger on the Internet is saying. It just adds fuel to the fire if you ask me.</p>
<p>*sigh* Sadly, I&#8217;ve seen it before in the Mom blogging community&#8230; don&#8217;t you DARE speak out or disagree with one of their own or you will suffer their wrath! Maybe that&#8217;s why I never really fit in&#8230; I&#8217;m too much of an independent thinker.</p>
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		<title>By: mswiggie</title>
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		<dc:creator>mswiggie</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 15 Dec 2009 19:05:10 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Great comment Candace. Good point to make. While tags are really supposed to help narrow down what I&#039;m writing about, they aren&#039;t meant to define what&#039;s written. It would have been more appropriate if the tag was hoax with a &quot;?&quot; because at the time, so many were skeptical. If someone wasn&#039;t sure, they may search the story using &quot;hoax&quot; as a keyword.

However, you make a great point that many will see it tagged as a hoax and think of it as such. I don&#039;t remember tagging it as &quot;hoax&quot; but if it&#039;s there, I&#039;ll remove it.

Thanks for your comment.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Great comment Candace. Good point to make. While tags are really supposed to help narrow down what I&#8217;m writing about, they aren&#8217;t meant to define what&#8217;s written. It would have been more appropriate if the tag was hoax with a &#8220;?&#8221; because at the time, so many were skeptical. If someone wasn&#8217;t sure, they may search the story using &#8220;hoax&#8221; as a keyword.</p>
<p>However, you make a great point that many will see it tagged as a hoax and think of it as such. I don&#8217;t remember tagging it as &#8220;hoax&#8221; but if it&#8217;s there, I&#8217;ll remove it.</p>
<p>Thanks for your comment.</p>
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		<title>By: Candace</title>
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		<dc:creator>Candace</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 15 Dec 2009 19:02:33 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Yes, we do need to protect ourselves emotionally and financially--but there is a time, a place, and a way to do that respectfully.

I always suggest that when people want to give financial donations, they do so through an earmarked fund with the hospital, local organization or house of worship, etc.  There are a whole host of reasons why this is a good way to go about things.

However, the post to which you linked has as one of its tags &quot;hoax&quot;. I don&#039;t have any issue with people going off to verify and reporting the results--but tweeting about that process in a way that strongly hints you don&#039;t buy the story is insulting.  
Wait for verification, yes--but there is no need to rush to judgment, assuming the worst in people. The implication that a story like this is a hoax is hurtful, especially when we know that the mom is on Twitter and seeing this.  I believe that people are reacting to those insinuations at this very sensitive time.

Yes, tweeting out pictures is differently than how I think I would mourn--but I don&#039;t think we should be in the business of judging how another chooses to mourn.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Yes, we do need to protect ourselves emotionally and financially&#8211;but there is a time, a place, and a way to do that respectfully.</p>
<p>I always suggest that when people want to give financial donations, they do so through an earmarked fund with the hospital, local organization or house of worship, etc.  There are a whole host of reasons why this is a good way to go about things.</p>
<p>However, the post to which you linked has as one of its tags &#8220;hoax&#8221;. I don&#8217;t have any issue with people going off to verify and reporting the results&#8211;but tweeting about that process in a way that strongly hints you don&#8217;t buy the story is insulting.<br />
Wait for verification, yes&#8211;but there is no need to rush to judgment, assuming the worst in people. The implication that a story like this is a hoax is hurtful, especially when we know that the mom is on Twitter and seeing this.  I believe that people are reacting to those insinuations at this very sensitive time.</p>
<p>Yes, tweeting out pictures is differently than how I think I would mourn&#8211;but I don&#8217;t think we should be in the business of judging how another chooses to mourn.</p>
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		<title>By: bop</title>
		<link>http://www.mswiggie.com/ramblings/rants/truth-or/comment-page-1#comment-23</link>
		<dc:creator>bop</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 15 Dec 2009 18:38:15 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Glad to see this too. I&#039;m military, and have a child, and can&#039;t imagine even losing my baby, much less when my husband is away. 

STILL - I know we live in a social-networking world, but to tweet that way, when she did, then post pictures so soon afterwards? Then get on the next day? I get you&#039;re grieving but step away from the internet. It&#039;s a comment on how much the online world &amp; validation on it rules lives today.I think that&#039;s what a lot of people (though silent) take issue with. 

No I&#039;m, not hating; before her support train gets on &amp; chews me out. But seriously, think for 2 seconds. Would you be posting online at a time like that?

Thanks again for a well thought out post.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Glad to see this too. I&#8217;m military, and have a child, and can&#8217;t imagine even losing my baby, much less when my husband is away. </p>
<p>STILL &#8211; I know we live in a social-networking world, but to tweet that way, when she did, then post pictures so soon afterwards? Then get on the next day? I get you&#8217;re grieving but step away from the internet. It&#8217;s a comment on how much the online world &amp; validation on it rules lives today.I think that&#8217;s what a lot of people (though silent) take issue with. </p>
<p>No I&#8217;m, not hating; before her support train gets on &amp; chews me out. But seriously, think for 2 seconds. Would you be posting online at a time like that?</p>
<p>Thanks again for a well thought out post.</p>
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		<title>By: anon</title>
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		<dc:creator>anon</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 15 Dec 2009 18:33:49 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Where is the confirmation? it&#039;s not on the Brevard County&#039;s site. WHO made the call? Who confirmed and where is the confirmation? Sorry until I see legit reports and not some personal blogger website, I don&#039;t believe it.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Where is the confirmation? it&#8217;s not on the Brevard County&#8217;s site. WHO made the call? Who confirmed and where is the confirmation? Sorry until I see legit reports and not some personal blogger website, I don&#8217;t believe it.</p>
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